Love laughs. Love hurts. These are the two dichotomies of love we encounter everyday in our lives. Love is never stagnant and if Lovers do not saunter together with Love, Love will leave them behind.Such is Love.....
Therefore, to understand the elusive qualities of Love I would like you to look at the ideas of Love shared by Keats in Bright Star and Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 and 64.
Good evening to the lovely Pn.Ju and fellow bloggers,
ReplyDeletePn. Ju, I have actually posted this on the other label for the mainstream students so, here goes another comment of mine that has been modified according to your question.
L.O.V.E...
to me is the most powerful ch'i that lives in every living soul. And as cliché as it sounds I believe that everyone will agree that it is infact very powerful! Almost all the poems, songs and movies out there are about love. Humans are basically born to be intrigued to this subject matter as we need to love and to be loved..alas if not, why would Abraham Maslow include it in his hierarchy of needs?
As we all know, sonnet 55 connotes the idea of an everlasting love. Shakespeare used strong imageries to portray this theme but somehow his view on love changed in sonnet 64 as he says that love is not permanent because death will separate love. Keats’ poem on the other hand shows the theme of love is life.
I would honestly say that I have felt it all but I am very touched by Keats' poem. Keats' Bright Star is very emotional and touching to me personally because I feel the despair and hopelesness he felt when he penned this poem. Keats lived a short life and had to go through the deaths of his loved ones before he succumbed to his own death at a very young age. He was in love when he wrote this poem but unfortunately died not long after he dedicated this to his lover.
The question is how would it feel to be in love when you know that you will not be able to see your love one forever again? Knowing that the very minute you are spending with that person could be your very last memory together? It breaks my heart to picture this and that is why I think he has every right to feel that life is meaningless without his lover.
Whether one's view about love differ from the other..the one sole similarity is the fact that the power of love cannot be denied. Either it makes you or it breaks you..life is love and love is life!
LEVINIA ANAK TONG KENG (BPTESL PJJ-J40722)
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ReplyDeleteHye Pn.Ju...
ReplyDeleteTq for posting this topic as it is an interesting one and is surely very close to my heart.Ok this is what i have to say...
Love is something very subjective and different people may define it in different ways..
For Keats in Bright Star, he believes that love happens when we die for someone else,in his context for a lover.Although he wishes to 'live ever', but the truth is someday the lover will die and the feelings he has for the woman of his life will eventually die as well.
Similar with what Shakspeare feels in Sonnet 64 that death will separate lovers..both poems carries deep sadness in them..Sometimes love dies although lovers are still alive.Why?
If we look around us, love is everywhere,as young as school students are able to fall in love and call themself lovers(which obviously doesnt make any sense at all).Sometimes this makes me wonder on what love is to them?I seriously think they are still unable to understand the real concept of love.What is the real concept of love??
On my opinion, love is all about accepting without condition and thats why we hear about unconditional love.Love shouldnt be measured and the most important thing is we accept the person we love for who they are and not what we want them to be..Love is not about compromising with the one we love and if there is compromise, it isnt love at all(i remember listening to this dialogue from a hindi movie Mohabathein).
I see many people out they,calling themselves true lovers but try to change the person they love as much as they can in the name of LOVE..These changes applies even to all the good values their lover had in them for all these years(changes should only take place for the bad aspects in someone),so whats the point of falling in love in the very first place?I still seem to be fail to get a solid answer for this till today.Aren't they aware that this will only hurt their loved ones so badly inside although they might still wear a 'bitter smile' on their face just to give that illusion of "i am ok".These lovers are already 'dead' in mind,heart and soul and is not even anywere close to ideas of John Keat's Bright Star or Shakespeare's Sonnet 64.
Althought this kind of "weird love" is what we see around, it may give some people happiness out of other people's tears and heartache..Love can make someone happy and at the very same time,crush their heart into tiny bit of pieces which can never be undone.But its of some kind of "fair game" coz after all,NO PAIN NO GAIN..
To move on with my thoughts about love, i would like to quote Celine Dion's Because You Loved Me...
You were my strength when i was weak
You were my voice when i couldnt speak
You were my eyes when i could see
You saw the best there was in me
Lifted me up when i couldnt reach
You gave me faith coz you believed
I'm everything I m
Because you loved me.......
As for me,whenever i tink of the word LOVE,two most special people come to my mind....For me,unconditional love is the one love given by Mr&Mrs Shanmugam,MY PARENTS..
I know they have got all their love for me and the most important thing is that, they accept their one and only daughter for who she is.They have given me education,fed me well since i was born and gave me all the love i could have ever asked for..The reason they are giving me such love is so that i will be able to pass it on to my children in future.I have actually learnt the real meaning of love from them....LOVE AND DO NOT EXPECT ANYTHING IN RETURN..for me,that is LOVE.
But like what i said earlier, definition of love may differ from one individual to another and this is what i feel about love..for me,my parents are the true meaning of love and as their daughter, i would try my best to please their heart and love them in return,although i may not be able to love them they way they love me..
SUBASHINI A/P SHANMUGAM~PJJ BPTESL4~(J40730)
Puan Jue and my dear friends,
ReplyDeleteCould I please be Shakespeare, even for a day-to be able to describe what love is, passionately? He is the only person whom could define love convincingly, and for that, Shakespeare I must be!
Love…is THE magic word. So magical, so intriguing but yet so confusingly that some claim to be mad in loving that they claim they love fiercely but indeed, their love or shall I say actions are so dry and pretentious. On the other hand, some are so shy or find no need to declare their feelings that they fail to shower the word to their loved ones but, they are more than willing to give up anything in the name of the same love. The question is: Which of them is the just, true love? Is it wrong to have loved someone but without saying the magic word or is it not wrong then to have claimed to love someone so deeply but our actions do not show? I don’t know.… But what I know is that love is full of mysteries and magical things.
Shakespeare in his Sonnet 64 declares that love is not permanent….
Will love withers when we are no longer with that someone? I don’t think so, it won’t. And I refuse to condone. I still love my mum and dad although they are no longer with me. And the funny part is- I love them even more when they are finally gone. I miss them every second of my life. And for that I say the feeling of love is permanent thing to me. Perhaps physically, the people we love may no longer be with us but the feeling lingers. Love never fades away. It remains and sometimes it grows even stronger when we have to part temporarily.
Is love is forever and immortal?
My love immortal is to my creator but to my children and husband, my love is forever. Is there a difference between these two words? Yes, at least to me. They may mean the same denotatively but connotatively, they are different. I hereby declare that my love to my children and husband is forever. I will love them till I die and there is no doubt about that. I am willing to do anything for them and will always do but what if they hurt me? Will I deny my love to them? Yes, I am bound to be hurt but the love (theirs towards me or mine towards them) will still there no matter how faint it may be. And the immortal love towards our creator gives me and others the courage to let that ‘dying’ feeling to reborn and flourish. I must admit how I scared I am thinking about what if my better half finds me no longer his better half. Would my feeling be too dented that my love towards him changed? Would I react by showing the same emptiness to him? Honestly, I cannot answer that question. Even Keats and Shakespeare soothing words would not be able to help me. Finally, I do believe in immortal love and its powerful magic as “ Love is a word with thousand of mysterious things”
NORIAH BT. MOHAMED (BPTESL 4 - J40724)
Hai Puan Ju...Khayma here......again...it is love...this time...i like the idea of dichotomy.....yeah...even the context of love is full of dichotomy...there is two sides to it....but yet again...can i say that......love is how the two souls look at it....and how they want to live with the word love......is love gonna weave a magic about their life...or are they going to let love destroy them???
ReplyDeleteHelo again Pn.Ju, ever since i commented on this topic last nite..my mind kept telling me to come back and write again..You know,now that the final is over and life is kind of boring for me without assignments...hehe...so here i am again.
ReplyDeleteHye Khayma..."scribbling butterfly"...gosh!!!i love ur nickname so much(frm the bottom of my heart) as i m a "butterfly queen" myself :)My life is badly affected by butterflies and the freedom that accompanies it(possitive affets of course)....ok now straight to the point...You're wise enough to come up with such thoughts
Yea true enough, i do agree with you on "love is how two souls look at it" and "how they want to live with the word love"......but too bad it will oni remain as love if that impression or interpretation they have made earlier remains the same..any slight changes in it will be destructive for both of them and the rest around them...
Like in Keat's Bright Star,although he wishes to 'live ever', but the truth is someday the lover will die and the feelings he has for the woman of his life will eventually die as well...this obviously involves changes and again this kind of love is never permanent....n whether it is temporary or not, it depends on how these two lovers treat each other..
What i tink is tat, when we expect others to change for us, others will expect us to change for them...and regrets might come later in life...after all life is again a "fair game",what u give you get back
Obviously all of us want to experience eternal love like what we watch in movies and hear in songs..but how many of us out there actually gets the privilege to experience true meaning of love without any expectations and changes involved in it???
Many fall in love just for the sake of 'being in love'and claims it just happened and i was so helpless that i cud not stop it...will that actually destroy them or promise happiness in life???
Love has the power to make someone smile and at the same time create so much of pain if we choose to love the wrong person ryte?? Yea again...love is something subjective and it is up to us to decide what kind of love actually laughs and what kind of love hurts...
SUBASHINI A/P SHANMUGAM~PJJ BPTESL4~(J40730)
Hi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Hi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Hi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Hi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Hi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Hi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Hi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
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ReplyDeleteHi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Hai subashini......
ReplyDeleteKhayma a.k.a. Scribbling Butterfly here......Nice to know you......
Yes...love is a huge subject.....so abstract...there are numerous interpretations to it......
Love is so subjective.....all i can say is.....it is something beautiful and positive....as an emotion.....
love can make on e live or it can even cause death.....Love is alla bout dichotomy...just as life is....
as my friend said......it is like a cup of hot coffe....a little bitter, but warm and soothing....
i prefer to put it this way......
sound and silence
light and dark
they are not complete without one another....
they complete and compliment each other...
without one, the other wold not be appreciated nor recognized...
thats how love between two souls should be......
they should complete and compliment each other....
thats all from me for now.....have a good day...to you to puan Ju....
:P
Hi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Hi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Hi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Hi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Hi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Hi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Hi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Good evening Puan Ju and my beloved friends,
ReplyDeleteWhen I first look at the word ‘love’, it reminded me of Puan Ju’s words that she said during our novel class, last semester. “I love LOVE”. And when she said that, I could see that everyone in the class were smiling and I could say that her statement has put cheeriness and excitement in everybody’s faces. All I can is, that four-letter-word is not just an ordinary word, but it is a wonderful and magical word. It adds colours to our lives. It can create a smile in one’s face, it can make someone more ‘alive’ and love makes us real human beings ! That magic word also can lead us to hatred, grudge and sadness. Love can sometimes be considered as a ‘teacher’ that teaches us the true meaning of life.
This is because people experienced love differently.
In Bright Star, John Keats’ speaker tried to convey messages on the subject of love. The speaker feels that love should be immortal and unfading. This can be seen in “Pillow'd upon my fair love's ripening breast” where he wishes that he could spend the rest of his life with his spouse. I think all of us would think the same way, and if we were given a choice, we would ask to spend our lives with our loved ones forever. Even though they are no longer with us, we will still cherish the sweet and hard moments with them.
J40729 - Siti Nor Fazidah Tahir
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ReplyDeleteHi there Pn.Ju and my fellow bloggers.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the discussion is on love… love and love. Wow ! Friends all of you have so much to say about love. It was so interesting to read about all your views on love. Just as Keats and Shakespeare who views love as immortal, sincere and pure.
Keats views love as his life. If he were to lose love than life has no meaning. This is what he shares in the poem Bright Star. He equates his love to the star and hopes his love would shine and be always there for life and never fade away. As for me, if there is one such true love I want to experience it just as Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 also shares about love that lasts forever. He immortalized his love in a poem. He is no more but his love lives among all of us through his poems. Just as Romeo and Juliet ‘s love that we still talk about and that lives among us till this day. I guess if love does not take one for granted than one such love can exist. Both these poems have touched my heart just as mentioned by Levi as the depth in meaning of these poems is so deep and meaningful.
In Sonnet 64 on the other hand it is the more practical side of love. In this poem Shakespeare talks about love that is not permanent because death separates lovers. Till death do us apart…The vow of love. I understand it perfectly. In life there is no immortality and such is love. Just as the buildings that fall and stones that erode love too is not permanent.
What is love? It is one of the most difficult questions for the mankind. Centuries have passed by, relationships have bloomed and so has love. But no one can give the proper definition of love. To me love is friendship, love is like luck. You have to go all the way to find it. When you have it don’t let it go. Love is patient, love is kind. It has no envy, nor it boasts itself and it is never proud. Love protects; preserves and hopes for the positive aspect of life. It is like the dream of your matter of affection coming true. If this is what love is than I have it all around me. I feel it daily as I live in love, with love and for love.
If love is as beautiful as mentioned above than why is there hatred in love? Why is there hurt in love? Why is love so painful! This is the dichotomy of love. It makes you cry and it makes you laugh. You can’t live without love as it is an inevitable part of a living.
NACHAMMAI SINGARAVADIVELU (BPTESL SEM 4) J40803
Hye Puan Ju and my friends,
ReplyDeleteWhen we talk about love, we seem to relate our own experience as i believe that everyone of us has experienced it, no matter how sweet or hard about love is, we will still remember it. Every human beings need love and to be loved to make or lives colourful and to keep the world moving. One thing for sure, to love and to be loved, we need to sacrife and to be loyal. Love here doesnt mean to our partner like husband/wife or boyfriend/girlfriend, love here is referred to everyone around us. Love comes in many 'forms' that we seldom neglect and never appreciate it. In Bright Star, the speaker has actually pointed out that love should be unchangeable. as my friend, Suba has stated it earlier, love is unconditional where we should accept them as what they are. Love is something that comes from the inner,the pure heart,where everyone deserves to love and to be loved without any condition. I personally feel that love is something that we can consider it as subjective and 'blind'where there is no such rules or formula to define or measure love. Through my experience, if we love someone, we just have to be ourselves and we dont have to pretend in order to look 'good' in someone's eyes. Sometimes, without we realize it,the originality that we showed is seen as our uniqueness.I always come across the situation where people always judge love through physical looks. For example, they tend to compare and wonder why the handsome and charming husband married to a fat ugly wife. I do not know why people like to use that kind of formula to judge and define love. Is it because God created love for a perfect person? Or love is only to be shared among the rich? I just dont understand.
When we talk about love, we tend to express it in different way. Some may say that true love requires us to promise to live and die together as in dramas. As in Sonnet 55 and 64, the word 'immortal' is being discussed. In Sonnet 55, Shakespeare expresses his true love through his poem. He believes that by doing so, his true love will not be faded away, and always be ‘fresh’ and never ending as people will always recite and talk about it. He let the readers to immerse themselves in the poem and feel his immortal love. In Sonnet 64, he changes his view about love and it is opposite with his view in Sonnet 55. He is more realistic in this poem where he believes that love is not everlasting where death separates them. Love will also be faded and brushed away as time goes by.
In our real life, I personally think that I would accept both Shakespears’ view in his poems. Yes, it would be unrealistic if I agree with his view that love is never-ending. For me, death will separate us but the love we have for our loved ones will always be in our heart. We will always ‘spare’ the love for our loved ones even though they are no longer with us and I believe that true love cannot be replaced.
J40729 - Siti Nor Fazidah Tahir
Helo Pn. Ju and my dear friends.....
ReplyDeleteReading through all these above comments has really made me more aware of how different people think and feel of LOVE.....Well, tats not surprising at all because we are all different human with different thoughts and feelings inside...Our definition of this word may be due to our own experience or how we look at other people being in love…
Hye Khayma@ Miss Scribbling Butterfly
Nice knowing you too :D
“They should complete and complement each other”....and that’s how you think of love between two souls…well I totally agree on this. Complete and complement means filling up each other’s strength and weaknesses ryte??? Again accepting without expecting anything in return comes in. That’s what makes being in love such a wonderful thing….We accept someone’s weakness and try to make them feel ok by using our strength in helping them to deal with a particular situation. This should take place without making them feel disturbed or guilty for not being able to be how we are…. Same goes when we face a situation or condition where we feel helpless of hopeless, our soul mate reacts in the same way. Such a great give and take police..
Hye Fazie,welcome to our discussion….
I just love this opinion of yours and it really caught my attention..I read it again and again not because your thoughts were too difficult to understand but I felt that your ideas are of intense feelings and power…You are deeply in love rite my dear???And I m so happy for you…
”Through my experience, if we love someone, we just have to be ourselves and we don’t have to pretend in order to look 'good' in someone's eyes”. That’s what you have shared with all of us here…What a great way of arranging your words !!!!! Well true enough, the best image to portray to others is who we are and not something that doesn’t belong to us.
We are all pretending….The important thing is to maintain a straight face (Maurice Valency). The needs of not pretending and trying to be ours self is pointed out through this quote….Normally in the beginning of any relationship, some of us tend to portray only the good side of us….Being loving, romantic and sweet talkers as well….But as the two lovers get into a more serious relationship, some start showing the “real side” of them and that’s when the love and feelings between them changes and fades away, as far as it could go and great demands and expectations replaces it. It may be something not so serious in the beginning but the longer they pretend to be someone else the more trouble they invite.
“Just to look good” for someone else doesn’t mean we can feel good inside….This is seriously not good because how long will we be able to put up with this ‘play’ we created in order to look good for others??? It will only kill us inside …. Love laughs and love hurts….
SUBASHINI A/P SHANMUGAM PJJ BPTESL4 (J40730)
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ReplyDeleteGood evening Puan Ju and my beloved coursemates,
ReplyDeletePhew, it seems that Puan Juridah has successfully chosen the right topic to be discussed. I believe that everyone of us has many things to say and share the experience (and also opinion) about love.
Hi Suba.. =)
We have discussed about love and immortal love,and in fact, many of us has come up with different opinion and perception towards immortal love. Shakespeare has his own definition of immortal love and what he
has done to make his love eternal. I personally feel that love that we have in our heart comes for reasons,i mean abstract and subjective reasons and they are different from one to another. So, here I want to comment what Suba has commented about my previous post. I am talking based on my personal experience, not that i learn from book or any love encyclopedia, it just come from my heart. Frankly speaking,I do feel that immortal love should be based on things that is natural and not what we pretended to be. Immortal love should also be based on inner natural beauty, not the outer/physical looks. How could someone say 'i love you' because you are pretty or your eyes make my heart melted or your flawless skin has made me fall in love and claim it to be immortal love? Does it make sense? How can we consider that kind of love is immortal when it is based on something that can change as we grow older?
Erm, before I get emotional and carried away,its better for me to end my post with question mark..Thats all..=)
J40729 - Siti Nor Fazidah Tahir
Hi there Pn Ju and friends,
ReplyDeleteHi mysilentdiary,
I would agree with you about love in your point of view. Love is not judged on looks but its the passion, care compasion felt for one another. As the saying goes Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder..
As what you said that how could one express love to beauty and not for the inner self of who the person is....Well this depends on individuals as mentioned by scribbling butterfly that love is how two souls look at it.
Some look at the inner part of love while some look at the physical side of love. The choice is left to individuals as what Subashini mentioned that all of us have different views and concepts about love.
As for me I think both the inner and the physical factors matter to me. True love does not identify any of this. It is a feeling of esctasy and devotion.
Helo Pn. Ju and my friends..
ReplyDeleteFazie ...great!!! "How could someone say 'I love you' because you are pretty or your eyes make my heart melted or your flawless skin has made me fall in love and claim it to be immortal love? Does it make sense? How can we consider that kind of love is immortal when it is based on something that can change as we grow older?"
.....I took all that from your comment above...but seriously....isn’t that happening around us nowadays ??
People tend to fall for outer beauty…not many people especially among the younger generations actually cares for what is inside..I mean the heart. attitude, feelings etc etc….We listen to love songs describing beauty as something seen as being good looking , pretty with great figure and the list goes on….How many people out there are daring enough to say that they fall in love with their bf/gf because he or she is polite, being able to give and take or understanding ??? How many???? Even if they do claimm they fall for internal beauty, how honest could that be???Out of 10 couples , maybe just 2 or 3 or maybe lesser than that…that’s exactly what’s happening now….
Those days..yes, falling in love was not about looking at how beautiful or rich someone is or on how much property they own…but now???? I don’t wish to include all the youngsters in this list or some people out there might get annoyed with my opinion, but what I think is that most of them do think like that nowadays…I have seen this for myself….normally this kind of love or relationship never last coz beauty does not last forever coz like what u said, outer beauty fades away once the aging process takes place..
As for me,love that stays forever is the love between human and god, the love between parents and their children and not to forget love between spouses...This is because some people claim, falling in love after marriage is more permanent (I m not sure how far this is true coz I have yet to experience it myself)…These three types of love will definitely last forever because it’s based on respect, honesty, loyalthy ,great understanding and not based on lust….
SUBASHINI A/P SHANMUGAM PJJ BPTESL4 ~(J40730)~
hi, Pn.Juridah actually I've posted my comment on the mainstream students' label. However, in my point of view, the poets of these three poems are hunger for an everlasting love. As in the 'Bright Star',the poet express his desire through the descriptiops about star.Star is consider natural beauty which we can only see them but impossible for us to keep it as our own property. So, I think there is implicit meaning in underlying in this description.Real love is eternity,in fact human being are unable to stop the time flux. Time will make people change, things change and even, maybe someday the love towards your lover will change as time flies.
ReplyDeleteHello, Puan Ju and my course mates,
ReplyDeleteThere are many stages of love at different ages and different types of love. For me, love is caring about someone so deeply that I feel very different without them. I will feel a little piece of myself missing if they pass away or leave me.
My life is incomplete when they are away and I would do anything to protect them or to make them happy. When I think of love I think of a couple sitting side by side holding hands and looking deeply in the eyes.
But this opinion and the way that I portray and believe love may be the same as all my friends, - Love is an incredibly powerful word. When you are in love, you always want to be together, and when you are not, you are thinking about being together because you need that person and without them your life is incomplete - I am referring this to my beloved husband and children.
I do agree with you, Boong...they are searching for everlasting love (Keats in Bright Star and Shakespeare in Sonnet 55 and 64. Keats express his desire to be a star - an idea cannot be achieve by a human being in this world. Whereas in Sonnet 55, Shakespeare express his true love while in Sonnet 64, he changes his believe, when death comes, love is not everlasting. It will be gone by the wind.
To me, I accept Shakespeare's thoughts - the memories of love forever but when comes death, we will be separated by the love's one. But remember...even death cannot washed away the spirit of love of our love's one.
ROSILA ISMAIL (J40727)Sem 4 - BPTESL
Assalamualaikum Puan Jue,
ReplyDeleteHi everyone,
I would honestly say that I really enjoy every second reading about LOVE..…Many interesting and refreshing views on love. I definitely agree with the opinion that age does not represent maturity. As you all know I am the eldest of all (hehehe) but many of your opinions show much maturity and deep understanding of love. For instance, Suba. Your feeling towards a child-parents relationship is so strong. I can relate to you and how your mum must have felt as I am a mother too. It is true what Keats and Shakespeare say about love- it never fades.
Levi, you have opened my eyes about the true meaning of love. Love is life and life is indeed love! What is love without life? It is too burdensome. And live without love? Oh! No! It is unbearable.
I also hope we do all find the true love like Fazie hopes. Love never judges. Love is blind. It is true too that there is a wide spectrum of love.
And to you Nacha, when you mentioned love is friendship, you are absolutely right dear, It is so valuable to go through bad times.Through thick and thin during our time here in UPM, friendship has indeed helped us to survive and find life bearable.
(NORIAH BT MOHAMED - J40724 : PJJ TESL – SEM 4)
Good evening Pn. Ju and all…..
ReplyDeleteLOVE is a powerful word….it is a word with an intense meaning and life becomes empty and meaningless without it…
Kak Rosila,
I like the way you described the love and relationship you have for your husband and children, especially when u said how incomplete u feel without them and how u always want to be around them and whenever you are far away, they r still in your thoughts….WOW!!! Such a great way to describe your love for them….I really envy such love….I m happy for u sis and I hope that this love between you and your family members last forever…..From what I see, u r playing your role as a wife and mother very well, being soft spoken and understanding. Although it has been only 2 years that we got to know each other, you were able to understand my ups and downs and that makes you a lovely friend as well…thank you once again.
Kak Norry….
Thank you sis…I know you would be able to understand me and the love I have for my parents because you are one yourself. From what u do and the way you care your family, especially your children, I know you are not much different compared to my mother….You have so much of love in you to offer, being the eldest one among us, I could see how you are matured enough to advise and understand others so well…That should exactly how the eldest would behave….and thank you for being who you are.
Here I would like to share to quotes about parent-children relationship and what makes them so special compared to others around us…
“I cannot think of any need in childhood as strong as the need for a father's protection. ~Sigmund Freud”~ for me, my father is my hero….He shows his love by giving me his protection. Protection from danger around me when I was his little baby girl. Protection from pain and sufferings when I was in the process of growing and now protection to ensure a happy and safe life for me so that I will be able to experience a brighter future. My father has protected me all the way and I m thankful to god coz I know he has for me is lifelong and permanent.
On the hand, my mother, the most beautiful woman I have know in life. “A mother is the truest friend we have, when trials heavy and sudden, fall upon us; when adversity takes the place of prosperity; when friends who rejoice with us in our sunshine desert us; when trouble thickens around us, still will she cling to us, and endeavor by her kind precepts and counsels to dissipate the clouds of darkness, and cause peace to return to our hearts. ~Washington Irving~” How will I be able to express how grateful I am to have her in my life. Eternal love is what she has to offer me.
No matter what, I know their love for me will never change. Everlasting love is what they have in them to offer me. Hurting them would be something I wouldn’t want to do but being a normal human being who is not perfect, I sometimes can’t stop myself from making mistakes in life …That’s why I made it a point that this kind of love is more permanent along with the other two types I have mentioned earlier. I feel so much love in me and I am really happy for being able to feel that way.
SUBASHINI A/P SHANMUGAM PJJ BPTESL4 ~(J40730)~
This is my take. After seeing the movie 'Bright Star' and crying through a good part of it, I'm feeling how deeply John Keats loved and how steadfast his lover was in her love. Facing death, he realized the splendor and magnificence of love and the limits of his own humanity to embrace her and her love.
ReplyDeleteAnd yet there she was - forever - shining in the night, as patient as nature, moving as sacred waters - pure as new fallen snow. To feel that presence and feel her tender breath - What bliss! “If you love something, set it free. If it comes back, it is yours, if not, it never was yours”.
SIVASANGHARI A/P NADARAJAN
J36340
BP TESL SEM 8 (UPM PJJ)